What does it really take to build a 10× organization in the age of AI?

In this in-depth conversation, we talk with one of the authors of 10x Org about why organizational design — not frameworks, not AI tools, not quick fixes — is the real lever for sustainable performance.

The discussion explores the thinking behind the book, how it was written, and the core ideas that challenge today’s dominant management beliefs.

In this conversation, you’ll learn:

• Why most organizations are still designed for the Industrial Age — and why that creates massive waste of human potential.
• What a “10× organization” actually means (and why it’s not about working harder or squeezing out 5–10% improvements).
• Why AI does not magically fix broken organizations — and how naïve AI adoption often amplifies existing problems instead of solving them.
• How organizational design and AI are tightly coupled: you won’t get real AI benefits without first changing how people collaborate and learn.
• The three organizational topologies (Resource, Delivery, Adaptive) and how different parts of an organization may need different designs.
• How LeSS fits into the 10× Org thinking as a concrete implementation of an adaptive organizational topology.
• Why learning is not a “nice to have”, but a core capability that directly drives long-term business performance.
• What leaders often misunderstand about org design, and why they hesitate to change it even when strategies and products are redesigned constantly.
• A practical, low-risk way to evolve organizations gradually, using mapping, experimentation, and continuous learning — instead of big-bang transformations.
• What the authors secretly hope readers will do differently the very next week after finishing the book.

This conversation is for:

Leaders questioning whether their current organization is truly fit for purpose

Coaches and consultants looking for a stronger, future-proof narrative beyond “implementing frameworks”

Anyone curious about the real intersection of organizational design, adaptability, learning, and AI

📘 10x Org launches worldwide on February 24.

If you’re serious about building organizations that can thrive — not just survive — in an AI-driven world, this conversation will give you plenty to think about.